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    Where is the outrage?

    So much for privacy. Obama has authorized the US military to operate in the US borders for the purpose of spying on innocent civilians.

    When drones take pictures of us on our private property and in our homes, and the government uses the photos as it wishes, what will we do about it? Jefferson understood that when the government assaults our privacy and dignity, it is the moral equivalent of violence against us. The folks who hear about this, who either laugh or groan, cannot find it humorous or boring that their every move will be monitored and photographed by the government.

    Don't believe me that this is coming? The photos that the drones will take may be retained and used or even distributed to others in the government so long as the "recipient is reasonably perceived to have a specific, lawful governmental function” in requiring them. And for the first time since the Civil War, the federal government will deploy military personnel inside the United States and publicly acknowledge that it is deploying them "to collect information about U.S. persons.”

    It gets worse. If the military personnel see something of interest from a drone, they may apply to a military judge or "military commander” for permission to conduct a physical search of the private property that intrigues them. And, any "incidentally acquired information” can be retained or turned over to local law enforcement. What's next? Prosecutions before military tribunals in the U.S.?

    The quoted phrases above are extracted from a now-public 30-page memorandum issued by President Obama's Secretary of the Air Force on April 23, 2012. The purpose of the memorandum is stated as "balancing … obtaining intelligence information … and protecting individual rights guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution…” Note the primacy of intelligence gathering over freedom protection, and note the peculiar use of the word "balancing.”


    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/...#ixzz1x865rHt8
    When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it. --Frederic Bastiat

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    not sure how spying on us is protecting our individual rights.
    iceberg
    president obama: "The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet."
    iceberg: no your honor, it wasn't hard at all to tell when the drugs kicked in....

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    It's not surprising a nation with no real imminent threat will turn in on itself eventually.
    Fortunes wax and wane, but the entire path is a downward slope.

    How long can bad things be propagated and something good be expected from them?

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by VTA View Post
    It's not surprising a nation with no real imminent threat will turn in on itself eventually.
    Fortunes wax and wane, but the entire path is a downward slope.

    How long can bad things be propagated and something good be expected from them?
    What are you talking about? I don't know why you're so convinced that the current environment is evidence of some precipitous decline. Remember the saying, "shit happens" ? Well, it happened but eventually it dries and you can scrape off the bottom of your shoe and keep walking.
    “We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality"
    -Ayn Rand

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaBigP View Post
    What are you talking about? I don't know why you're so convinced that the current environment is evidence of some precipitous decline. Remember the saying, "shit happens" ? Well, it happened but eventually it dries and you can scrape off the bottom of your shoe and keep walking.


 

 

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