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    Secret Service shuts down ‘fire Eric Holder’ protest

    The Occupy idiots can do anything they want but a tiny little protest regarding Obama's bitch gets shut down immediately.

    U.S. Secret Service officers shut down a student-led protest calling for President Obama to fire Attorney General Eric Holder this morning, according to a report from in front of the White House.
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/secret...rticle/2501155
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    Sometimes two events occurring at the same time really is just a coincidence. You or I could accidentally leave a backpack in a sensitive location and the same thing would happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erdawiro View Post
    Sometimes two events occurring at the same time really is just a coincidence. You or I could accidentally leave a backpack in a sensitive location and the same thing would happen.
    possibly. but i find it hard to believe when OCCUPY people are living in parks and on the streets, they don't have backpacks or the like that can be "confused".
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceberg View Post
    possibly. but i find it hard to believe when OCCUPY people are living in parks and on the streets, they don't have backpacks or the like that can be "confused".
    That may be true but that doesn't speak to the legitimacy or illegitimacy of this incident at all.

    An unattended bag in front of the White House that no one takes responsibility for is different than an unattended bag in the middle of an urban "campsite". For one, it would be more difficult to see a single unattended bag in the middle of dozens or hundreds of bags, tents, and frisbee stacks. For another, one is a highly sensitive target, the other is just a high target.

    Leave a bag at an airport, or Times Square, or the White House and you'll get a different reaction than if you leave a bag outside of a lecture hall, or a Whole Foods, or a music festival.

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    that would be well and good if the timing of it didn't stink and i've not seen anything to say what "said suspecious package" was.

    it's a cop out of an excuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceberg View Post
    that would be well and good if the timing of it didn't stink and i've not seen anything to say what "said suspecious package" was.

    it's a cop out of an excuse.
    That the timing stinks is irrelevant to whether or not the package - which I believe was a backpack that none of the protesters claimed - was suspicious.

    There is no evidence that the protest was shut down because of the subject matter. What we do know is that there was a backpack with no identifiable owner in front of the White House. If that stray backpack had been left in front of the Capital or in front of the Supreme Court then the same response would have been justified. Like I said, sometimes two concurrent events really do exist as a coincidence. Stinky timing isn't evidence of anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erdawiro View Post
    That the timing stinks is irrelevant to whether or not the package - which I believe was a backpack that none of the protesters claimed - was suspicious.

    There is no evidence that the protest was shut down because of the subject matter. What we do know is that there was a backpack with no identifiable owner in front of the White House. If that stray backpack had been left in front of the Capital or in front of the Supreme Court then the same response would have been justified. Like I said, sometimes two concurrent events really do exist as a coincidence. Stinky timing isn't evidence of anything.
    No, there's no evidence, just strong suspicion. And with all the "sneaky", "under the radar" tricks this administration has pulled during its tenure, is it any wonder? How about past administrations? A government that ran the Tuskegee experiment ... "under the radar", of course ... is not beyond suspicion. Besides, the scope of potential perps is much larger than the administration or any government official or proxy. Were this a deliberate bust-up of an inconvenient protest using a convenient pretext, it could have been just about anybody. Individuals with personal beefs have been known to call police, claiming to be the target and stating they just shot their wife in order to get SWAT to bust down the target's door in the middle of dinner, hauling the family outside at gunpoint and with zip-tie handcuffs (certainly a step further than ordering two dozen pizzas), or hiding a gun in their child's toy when the husband is taking said child on a plane ride to exact some twisted satisfaction in a domestic dispute. How difficult would it be for *anybody* to waltz up to a protest in front of the WH that they disagree with, set down their backpack and "pretend" to join the protest for a bit before slipping out to make a quick phone call to report a suspicious backpack?

    Besides ... this isn't the first time something like this has happend...
    Last edited by ThaBigP; 07-03-2012 at 02:22 AM.
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    Yes, the bag could have been a plant either by the government or some random person who just wanted to bust up the protest. But there's no evidence that suggests it was anything other than the misplaced bag of a random person.

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    Minor update: a lady there did claim the bag as hers, and doesn't appear to have been part of the protest.

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/02/se...e-white-house/
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    Quote Originally Posted by erdawiro View Post
    That the timing stinks is irrelevant to whether or not the package - which I believe was a backpack that none of the protesters claimed - was suspicious.

    There is no evidence that the protest was shut down because of the subject matter. What we do know is that there was a backpack with no identifiable owner in front of the White House. If that stray backpack had been left in front of the Capital or in front of the Supreme Court then the same response would have been justified. Like I said, sometimes two concurrent events really do exist as a coincidence. Stinky timing isn't evidence of anything.
    ok so no one claimed a backpack. stop things, clear it up, then let them be on their protesting way. to shut down the protest to me is to say they feel the prostestors put it there and are guilty.

    agreed timing isn't a major factor here, but when you put it all together, i don't believe they thought it was suspecious in as much as shutting someone up.

    but obamas admin would never want to curtain people's right to speech, would it? :)
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